B-Rant

- submitted by M.B.Darden on 02/11/2008

  

Things I Learned At The Apple Store

By M.B.Darden

I stopped by the mall the other day, mainly to pick up a pair of sneakers my wife had ordered. (That's another story, shopping -- even picking up things -- for the wife. It rarely ends well.) Anyway in the mall, I passed an Apple Store. It had recently been renovated, and I had never been there. (In fact, I'd never been in an Apple Store anywhere.)

I went in. First, I'm not a techie or a remotely skilled computer user. I have no strong feelings about Apple. I went in without preconceptions. I went in really to avoid leaving the mall -- it was freezing out & snowing & I was hoping (dreaming) that a few minutes later it would be a lot warmer and not snowing.

Here's what I think I learned or observed or concluded on my first trip to the Apple Store...

1. Michael Dell & Other Consumer PC-Makers: It's Over. Apple Has Won
It may not show up in the numbers, but it will. And the stock price? (Apple's lower than before but way higher than most.) How do I know it's won? I don't. But in my own twisted version of Buffet's maxim -- you learn most about a company through first-hand experience -- a few quick observations....

  • It was bitter cold, snowing. The mall was quiet. You could actually hear the water streaming from the marble fountain a floor away. But the Apple Store was packed with people--folks laughing, banging keyboards, sampling the rows of gleaming computers and gadgets, like they were in a high tech Disney World fun park. And there were no give-aways, no store discounts; just another (frigidly cold) day at the mall.
  • These people were not like me--i.e., lazy, biding their time before facing the cold. The lines at the cashier were 10-15 people deep the whole time. People were buying.
  • For God sakes, people were lining up -- waiting time, 22 minutes -- to get a seat in the Apple "lounge" at the back of the store. What was special there? Nothing. A chance to sit, read some magazines, drink coffee and sample some computer stuff.
  • At least 4 people told Apple Geniuses (i.e., sales people) they've used Dells over the years, hadn't considered Macs, but now wanted Macs. These were the 4 I heard, in a few minutes; how many more were there?
  • Three people -- moms -- approached Apple store managers to ask how their kids could become Geniuses. The managers laughed. Their answer: Get in line, there's an application list the size of Montana. The moms did get in line, and signed up their sons.
  • Think the store's only for teen geeks? (I did.) The people playing were of all ages. Some looked barely 14; others not younger than 70. You have a product or place that teens & geezers both want...you've got a f***ing business!

2. Apple "Geniuses" Are Chick Magnets
Nearly half of them were surrounded by babes almost out of central casting. Local high school or college girls (indie film arty, casual-chic, cool, smart) who couldn't seem to get close enough to them. And the Geniuses, many shy on the surface, were soaking it up. Favoring the girls-women, laughing charmingly and forcing the less hot women (and the guys) clamoring for help to wait.

3. Apple Geniuses Are In Fact Geniuses
Tech geniuses? I have no idea. Sales geniuses? Absolutely. Maybe that's 1 of Jobs' secrets. Get some geeky guys (most Geniuses are guys) who kind of look like the wind might blow them down (but who are in fact "animals"); set them in a store of largely ignorant but open & "monied" tech shoppers & let them "go." I saw a couple Geniuses sell hard core pro-level computers to a couple marks -- guys in rich leather jackets -- who came in looking for low budget notebooks. Another guy who came in just to look around, within minutes was reduced to a quivering near-desperate state-of-the-art desktop buyer. I don't know how they do it exactly -- they are selling stylish, hip-looking and extremely appealing products! -- but they're masters.

4. Bridging The Generation Gap May Be Possible, After All
Gen X, Y, Z, O, whatever. Middle aged geezers were yukking it up with their Geniuses. Hitting keyboards like Herbie Hancock, discovering with joyful amazement invisible cameras embedded in the monitors--slapping backs, laughing. Even the too cool Geniuses seemed to be having some fun. A few cross-generational pairs were fathers and sons. Teens actually showing their dads how to use stuff, acting impatient, sometimes in disbelief at their fathers' stupidity; but also getting a kick out of it all, actually communicating. Apple as a long-needed parenting tool? Probably not. But showing the "art" of the possible in communication? Maybe...

5. Starbucks, Don't Get Too Cocky
Starbucks is retrenching, closing stores in the U.S. (Dell, of course, is closing all its stores.) But that line in the back of the Apple store, for a seat and coffee and magazines? It reminded me of Starbucks a decade or 2 ago. I went back there. I confess: I waited in line. The coffee was great. The chairs were comfortable. The people were relaxed, having fun. Add some muffins and a few other items and, who knows, Apple could sell coffee and style too. (What does Starbucks know about music and books? Nothing, a few years ago. Now they're selling merchandise like the neighborhood Barnes & Noble.)

6. New Best Place To Furnish Your Home
It sounds ridiculous (OK, I'm only 1/4-serious). But, step aside Crate & Barrel, Pottery Barn, Ikea. The chairs in the back of the Apple Store were among the most comfortable I've sat in. No wonder no one wanted to leave, and the wait when I left had grown to 45 minutes. Want a new living room? Go to Apple, check out the sofa manufacturers and you're done. If you buy a new Mac, who knows, maybe Apple will throw in its corporate furniture discount.

7.Black (In fashion) Is Back
Actually, not entirely. Black as cool went out in the 90s. But thanks to Steve Jobs' evident unwavering commitment to black -- there was a photo of him in the store, wearing the black turtle-neck thing you often see him in -- it may make a more formal fashion comeback. All the store managers were in black and some of the Geniuses. They looked silly - the Jobs uniforms; like, what the f***, anyone tell you the 90s are over, you can dress in colors, even white? But by the time I left I was thinking, you know what, I liked my black turtlenecks back then, I'd probably like them now. They were simple, they went with everything; and, most important, when they got dirty, no one could tell.

8. I'm A Lot Less Savvy And Smart Than I Thought
OK, I'm an idiot, a near retard with no self-control. You know that guy I mentioned above, who went in with no intent to buy anything but just to chill? I was that guy too. But after relaxing in the lounge, I approached one of the Geniuses, just to ask a few questions. I told him I'd been buying Dells for the past 12 years. He laughed. (Not a cheerful laugh, a disdainful laugh.) He showed me this "basic" desktop system with a 24-inch monitor whose images looked more vivid than my new Sony HDTV flat screen TV. I told him I just bought a new desk top 6 months ago and it did everything I needed it to do. He said, what do you need it to do? I said, basically, Word, Excel, surf the net, etc. He said, you have no idea how much you could be doing. (He said this with a straight face and, while part of me wanted to smash that face for its pretentiousness, another part was intrigued, eager...Of course I wanted to do more, who doesn't?)

He said, "this" system--iMac 2.8GHz--was the least I should be using &, unlike my current system, it would last at least 2-3 years (a lifetime today). And it only cost $2300, he said.

I had gone to the mall to pick up my wife's sneakers. I had no need for a new computer -- I thought. It would be crazy to buy this thing. But the Genius, seemingly already abandoning me, was playing with some images and videos on the screen, simultaneously interweaving them, then dragging stuff from one section to another...and it was so...cool, beautiful. It looked so...fun.

When I got home, and I hauled the boxes into the den, my wife simply shook her head. Then she made a few critical comments -- of course, she didn't understand. Then she asked where I put her sneakers, I probably left them in the car.

I said no, I didn't; I reacted indignantly. I hadn't left them in the car. I hadn't picked them up at all. Sneakers? Who gives a crap about sneakers when you can get a computer system that has everything built into a massive -- yet light -- monitor that displays images more brilliant than I'd ever seen and which, I was almost certain, my friend Jack's son (14, going on 25) would be in awe over. And, I thought, if I play my cards right, I could probably get the brat to come over and actually download some of those games he and his friends are obsessed with and, you know what, are going to look damn good on my new computer.

I went back to the mall a few hours later; I got the sneakers. And, definitely Jack's kid was psyched to come over. The challenge, Jack said, was going to be to get him to leave. As for my next trip to the Apple Store? I'll give it some time. Although now that I think about it, my notebook is pretty heavy, and the ones at the store looked awfully light and easy to carry. And I know there's been a lot of criticism of the new feather-weight MacBook Air, but it is really light and it's unbelievably thin and it looks pretty cool, and...did I say that it looks really light?...


M.B.Darden has written for numerous magazines and newspapers (some of which you have heard of). He has had more jobs in the media & entertainment & financial industries than he can remember (i.e., he's been fired a lot, but then often inexplicably rehired). He lives in the burbs somewhere in the Northeast, with his family and, he says, within 30 minutes of 14 shopping malls. ...read more rants

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PCs are only good for making Macs look like devices from 2017

- submitted by Anonymous on 02/12/2008

Hey, PC Cluetards,

NeXT, the operating system that Steve Jobs started after leaving Apple, is what Mac OS X is based on today. In 1990 or so, NeXT had tear-off menus, right click menus, "X button = close window", gray interface, etc. all years before MacroStool ever came out with Windows.

You bought a shitty Dell computer that just happens to match your insipid taste and low demands (solitaire and check hotmail), so therefore of course you are happy enough with your choice.

Mac users however, demand much more both in terms of hardware and software QUALITY.

You just need a PC that is complicated enough so your wife can't find your midget porn bookmarks.

PCs suck. Macs are superior. 111111111


Genius?

- submitted by Anonymous on 02/12/2008

The sales people are Mac Specialists not Geniuses. Mac Geniuses are the tech guys at the repair counter. Many of the sales guy are smart enough (mac wise anyway) to be consider genius material. Glad you had a good time. PS none of these folks are on commission which is why they seem so helpful as they are not compensated more if the sell you some monster system you will never understand.


Old PC:s aren't bad either

- submitted by Anonymous on 02/12/2008

I run a PC from 2004 without any trouble. I've had it upgraded with a newer processor about a year ago, but the total cost sums up to much less than if I'd have bought, say, a PowerMac. Since I can still run the latest programs (disregarding games), such as the latest Office suite and Vista (although I use XP for several reasons), your argument about Macs having a longer lifetime is invalid.

/ PC guy from above


Almost everyone who uses

- submitted by Al on 02/12/2008

Almost everyone who uses both Mac OS X and Windows XP or Vista daily, prefers Mac OS X.

If you have never used Mac OS X, and most of you naysayers haven't, then why are you expressing an opinion, one way or the other?

When it comes to computers, you get what you pay for. You buy cheap parts and DIY, you have problems with cheap parts. You build your own with decent parts and you end up saving money and time.

If you don't build your own and you don't want to buy cheap junk, Macs, feature for feature, are actually cheaper than Windows computers. Take into account the bundled software and Macs are way ahead of equivalent PC offerings with their bundled crapware.


Still going dumb...

- submitted by Anonymous on 02/12/2008

You don't get compatibility problems with Windows PC:s because the parts are cheap. You get issues because there are actually lots of different configurations available, since you are not limited in choice to what Jobs feels is what you need. Thus, PC:s by far outstrip Macs when it comes to scalability. And no, Macs are *not* cheaper than PC:s. Not even if you include the bundled software in the equation.


Two other things. Macs have

- submitted by Al on 02/12/2008

Two other things.

Macs have used right click-able menus and mice since 1988. How long must these lies be repeated?

PC was a term coined by IBM to differentiate their personal computer from the Apple][, a personal computer from Apple. Over time PC came to mean any personal computer that did not come from Apple. Mac users did not popularise the PC term, Windows users did. Blame yourselves for no one calling a Mac a PC.


Cost of owning a PC

- submitted by Al on 02/12/2008

You leave out the time wasted and the extra software needed to operate a PC. I use both platforms daily. I use expensive anti-virus software and Windows first aid software. I use a software and a hardware firewall between my XP machine and the Internet. I must have a protected, non infected computer for my very confidential work.

I do part of my confidential work on a Mac. I do not have an attached hardware firewall on my Mac. I do not have anti-virus software on my Mac. The software firewall on my Mac is turned off. My Mac is still more secure than my PCs.

PC owners cannot get their heads around Unix security and Windows insecurity. They think Windows is a bigger target so it gets more attention. Fools. Security is built in and peer reviewed not tacked on in secrecy.


the sad thing is that most

- submitted by Anonymous on 02/12/2008

the sad thing is that most apple fan boys have used pc's and can make comparisons. you defend pc's yet you probably have not even touch a mac so how can you possibly make a comparison. yes pc'c got this and that but how many of them come with this and if you showed a little bit of interest you will notice that apple has got some good games too and not long and all pc games will be available on the mac if you have paid any attention to whats happening. people dont say macs are incredible because they are fan boys they say it because its true and please go to an apple store and play with one for a week before you make comparisons of a machine you have never touched. its not just trying to see who shouts the loudest just try a mac for at least a week with an open mind and see what you think and then you can say something critical knowing you are not just defending pc's without having any experienced what so ever with macs. I am not saying go and use it for 10 minutes i am saying go and use it like you use your pc not a few seconds here and there. it takes time to get use to a new operating system so give it a fair chance and see what you think yeah


u get what u pay for

- submitted by Anonymous on 02/12/2008

the author is not an idiot--his article is anecdotal and supports a common truth: macs are easy to use. Also, you may can get a PC for $1,000 less that does the same things (you can't, macs do far more). But you can also opt for a Yugo to get to the opera instead of the Rolls Royce... But Ill take quality please! If you clip coupons, hang your clothes to dry on the line, or drive a Yugo-- macs are NOT for you. Don't even try. Its just something you'll NEVER comprehend.


Congratulations on the article

- submitted by Anonymous on 02/12/2008

You seem to have hit the sweet-spot in garnering interest from posters. I like the gray font-color too...nice and easy on the eyes, especially on a decent Mac monitor.

Many PC users have become experts on delousing their machines, searching for drivers, reinstalling software...etc. For them, a PC is a comfortable and familiar environment. After a while, all those [Cancel or Allow] intrusions become reassuring. Plus they run many games natively - something the Mac cannot do except in emulation mode.

For most other people, a PC is limiting. They live with the paranoia that buying anything online is giving some yet undeloused trojan their personal information. They still have difficulty finding stuff on their computers. Reassurance comes from spending $800 having some techie wipe their drive and clean their personal files... until the rot starts again.

PCs are commodity items - that's why they feel dodgy in terms of quality. The OS is a nightmare; to wit - the downgrades from Vista to XP. Jobs said it best when talking about Microsoft: "They have no taste." Vista is a DRM nightmare made for the benefit of a few enterprise clients - not the consumers who pay money for Vista.

I can understand the sentiments of the author. If you're not a "PC geek," or are starting to have doubts about the wisdom of staying with your platform, just walk into an Apple store; sample the goodsand breathe in the atmosphere. You might find it liberating.


Defending Windows over Mac a sign of mental illness

- submitted by Anonymous on 02/12/2008

Enjoy: http://macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/comments/490/opinion/


Welcome to the club

- submitted by Rip Ragged on 02/12/2008

Shame on you. You said good things about Apple. Now you're a fanboy. Sorry. That's the only requirement. You're in.

Get used to the abuse. You are correct of course. Apple has won. The defenders of the smoldering corpse that once was ubertech will scream at you and call you names and use bad language.

Don't be upset or worried. It's all they have left. Pity.


Windows Menstrual Updates Cycle

- submitted by Macs Rule on 02/12/2008

Macs rule. To hell with all the Windows Idiot Fanboys who are always stuck in a desperate update cycle when they are waiting for the second Tuesday of the month when they all have their monthly menstrual period of updates when they cramp up on their cunt-bleeding windows PCs. Windows Fanboys should go choke on their addictions to antivirus, antispyware, and windows update software.


speling

- submitted by Anonymous on 02/12/2008

Has anyone else noticed that the Windows boosters can't spell? Why is that?


Built in spellcheck helps

- submitted by Reasonable on 02/12/2008

I'm not entirely sure, but one reason I can see that the Mac users might have fewer mistakes would be the built in auto spell-check feature that comes with Safari 3. I know of no comparable feature in Internet Explorer, although FireFox does seem to have one built in as well, at least in the Mac version.

There is also an OS-wide dictionary that is accessible from the right-click or control-click contextual menus, even in older versions of Safari and FireFox.


Amusing article great posts,

- submitted by Anonymous on 02/13/2008

Amusing article great posts, kept me laughing. Regardless. the war is over and done. Like windows? great... run it on a mac, like osx? great.... run it on a mac, and only a mac.

All I have to say.


Mac has won

- submitted by innhitman on 02/13/2008

A friend of mine bought his new Dell laptop (Vista) to the club to brag about the beautiful screen and the bubbles screen saver. He proceeded to turn on the laptop. It took so long to boot up that even PC owners were laughing. Then once something actually appeared it took another VERY LONG TIME for him to get control of his mouse. I asked if I could navigate through his system.... each time I clicked I had to WAIT for the command to take effect. He said I was pressing the buttons too fast and that I should press and wait.

He also bragged that he only paid $800.00 for the laptop with an additional $200.00 rebate.

The next week he comes in, opens his laptop and proceeds to place a hunk of something on the top edge of the screen. He says it was a camera. I had to take his word for it because I had to leave before he could get any picture from it. More laughter from the crowd assembled... mostly PC owners.

I saw the camera hooked up one more time, then never again.

He has since purchased more ram so the wait is shorter.. but still a ridiculous wait.

Trust this, it did not stop there....

Every time he tries to smack me and my MBP down, he starts off with the price.... and his argument pretty much ends there...

I'd rather pay a premium for something that performs well, than get a cheaper substitute that disappoints me. I have no envy for someone who has a cheaper computer than I.

If you are looking for a computer to play the latest greatest video games then get a PC based system and buy a bag of your favorite smoke and go to your room.

if you want to be productive and enjoy the journey... well, then.... there is only one choice.

Get a Mac!!!


Mac, and NOT going back...

- submitted by Tony on 02/13/2008

We got an iMac on the Friday after Thanksgiving, and there is no way we will ever go back to a Windows-based machine.

Both my wife and I have laptop pc's (mine from my employer) and we rarely used our aging desktop; mostly because it was plagued with issues and viruses. While doing some cleaning, I found some papers where I made notes of error messages and troubleshooting techniques. It brought back horrible memories of days lost trying to fix issues. Not once, with zero virus software needed, has our iMac had any errors, bugs, browser crashes, frozen or blue screens or the like. And the browser (Safari) is so much faster! We now "fight" to use our desktop, the Mac...

I suppose I wouldn't say that Apple has won, but winning, sure. Macs are growing at 4x the industry growth rate. The market share gains over the years reflect this reality.

Also, keep-in-mind that won or winning relates to more than just computers. I find it truly amazing that this company competes as it does, on several fronts. For example, with regard to computers, they are battling with the likes of Dell and HP. On the software side, they are competing with Microsfoft. In the mobile phone market, their first entry is game-changer and rivals the likes of RIM and Nokia. There are more examples, but one can clearly see that Apple is very unique in its wide array of product offerings, and the demand for these...

This company is a leader and trend-setter... from creating the first true personal computer, the iPod and now possibly the iPhone.

The Apple Stores reflect the excitement that people have for these products. There is a better way. Sure a pc can ultimately do all that a Mac can, well almost, in the same way that a bus can get me to work also...


Have fun finally

- submitted by Ivan Jobin on 02/13/2008

Have fun with your Mac! My 80 rears old mom with just a little experience with Windows (wich gave her headaches) just bought a Macbook Pro. And she's delighted. She can do more.

I was surprised to see the negative reactions to your article. Clearly, the way they talk show that they never tried a Mac. So their opinions are irrevelant.

Have fun with your Mac. Sure, you can do the same thing with a Windows machine, but often without fun. And sometimes only if you are a geek.


"Yes. A niche of the

- submitted by Anonymous on 02/13/2008

"Yes. A niche of the smartest, wealthiest, most creative people in the world. Please, stay with your PeeCee."

It's people (fanboys, if you will) who think that because they use a Mac that they are the smartest, wealthiest, most creative people in the world that give Mac users the worst name. They make them seem like pretentious assholes, which many of them are, but admittedly not all of them. Also, using "PeeCee" throughout your comment definitely makes me think you are in that category and doesn't lend to your credibility. I assume you can't type Microsoft either, and always use M$?

Personally I use Windows because I am a Windows admin and therefore I know the system inside and out. If the market suddenly and magically shifts to Macs, I'm sure I'll have to learn it. But I just don't see that happening anytime soon, if ever.

I've seen a few mentions that MacBooks are the fastest laptops out there to run Windows and that is BS. I assume they are referring to the PC World article that came out quite a few months back. If you read that article you would see it said it was the fastest notebook they had tested up to that point. They test mostly just consumer-level laptops and that is not that huge of a distinction. The very next month they tested a higher-end notebook and it handily beat the MacBook, if I remember correctly, and it cost considerably less at the same time.

In regards to this article... just lol. Apple stores are not heaven/nirvana/xanadu. I find this pretty hard to believe and am guessing the author is grossly exaggerating things. If this story is true and you can just haul a $2300 unplanned computer purchase into your house and your wife just shakes her head, either you're too rich for your own good or your wife is amazingly understanding. If it's the latter, don't ever let her go. (Or as I'm guessing you just made the entire story up)


Yep

- submitted by StevenS on 02/13/2008

Well M.B. Darden, I smiled many through out your article. Even a few times at some of the "need to get a life" winers that commented. I Loved the article. Yes, if you submitted it to Microsoft, they.... may not agree OR iT mAy HavE goT a fEw maRkS on it IF you handed it into your English Lit Prof. But, since you wrote it concerning a mall trip & visit to the Apple store, it was great! Thanks for reminding me why i continue to choose Mac over PC everyday.


Wow

- submitted by Brad F on 02/13/2008

There's a lot of people out there who hate Apple. Or at least enough who hate Apple to make it a point to hunt down any Apple-related article like this one and lash out.

I got a Mac two years ago for my birthday, and I have to say it's one of the best things that's happened to me. I never thought I could do so much with a computer. Things that used to take me hours (putting photos online for family to see, making my own website, backing up my drive, etc) now just take a few minutes, if that. I got .Mac for Christmas, and it made my life even easier than the Mac did. Whenever the rest of my family wants to, say, share photos of my baby cousin they have to send out a dozen emails with all the pictures. For Christmas this year we all went to my grandmother's and took hundreds of pictures of the event. Once I had all the pictures on my computer, which only took a few minutes (with no need to install any drivers for the half-dozen cameras everyone brought) it was only a few minutes before I had them all in my online web gallery, ready for everyone to download them at home. It's just one example of how Apple makes life easier.

A lot of people complain that Macs aren't very user-upgradable, but that's because they're not meant to be, and they don't have to be. Most PCs slow down as they get older, but my Mac, especially after installing Leopard, is running as fast as ever. The only upgrade I've done is install another GB of RAM, and that's all I need. Everything else I don't really care about, 'cause I don't really need to upgrade it. If this keeps up I won't need another machine for another 5 years. (not that I won't WANT another machine...)

As for gaming, I'm dual-booting Windows right now, and it can handle The Orange Box on very high settings. Being a 2 year old machine, I can honestly say I was expecting less, but it does pretty well, with a framerate that never drops below 50.

Macs are great at what they do, and they do a lot. Which is more than what can be said about PCs.


Life - it's so much more

- submitted by Anonymous on 02/14/2008

"I got a Mac two years ago for my birthday, and I have to say it's one of the best things that's happened to me."

Wow. You really must get out more.

Also, 10 points to the Anonymous PC admin two posts up.


Curious

- submitted by Dude on 02/14/2008

If Macs mean so little and the market share is so small then why do PC users get so bent about Apple? One would think (if thinking rationally) that it would be too small of a market share to matter, yet here you are... Sounds masochistic to me.


Switching

- submitted by James on 02/14/2008

I completely agree. I'm 51(!), Windows (love Unix/Linux, but not quite there). Support all my family's computers and Windows has finally defeated me. I have Vista on my machine (bought 4 copies to install around the house and have stopped at my machine). What a complete mess.

I've decided to chuck it and change.

whoo hoo!


what?

- submitted by Anonymous on 02/14/2008

I drink Samuel Adams, drive a eco-car, have a black turtle-neck, have techie friends. But like my pc. Ever tried to upgrade a video card in an iMac? Price,upgradability=pc stylish,great marketing=apple Software selection,avialibilty=pc nice store=apple hmmm... sorry about the typo's I was watching my Fucking NASCAR!


Enjoy

- submitted by Rolando on 02/14/2008

Enjoy your computer!


wow all you people are

- submitted by Anonymous on 02/14/2008

wow all you people are retarded. the guy is just saying what he feeling so all you mac or pc lovers shut the hell up


The Sales People are called

- submitted by Mac Specialist on 02/14/2008

The Sales People are called Mac SPECIALISTS. The GENIUSES are the tech support people. grrrr


Uh, oh.. Someone's feeling threatened.

- submitted by Some Guy on 02/14/2008

Looks like the kids who have their egos invested in Windows have turned up in droves to try to shout you down.

BTW, I just have one nit to pick: the "geniuses" are the people who do tech support at the Apple store. The sales people are called "associates".

Oh, and congratulations on choosing a computer that won't make you want to shoot yourself in the head. Most new Mac users I run into describe their reaction as a mixture of relief and delight.


"Personally I use Windows

- submitted by Some Guy on 02/14/2008

"Personally I use Windows because I am a Windows admin and therefore I know the system inside and out"

That explains your hostility to a superior product. I'm sure that the purveyors of whale-oil lamps were down on electric lights, too.


trolls are commenting this story

- submitted by Anonymous on 02/14/2008

I don't think that the comments being left for this article are legit. I think you are being mass trolled by the. Masses from 7chan.


Apple isn't perfect

- submitted by Anonymous on 02/14/2008

I don't think anyone would say apple is perfect, but they are an example of only a small handful of companies who clearly build products that people love. They are not compromised and will never appeal to everyone, but they fit into a normal life really well. Not the perfect games platform and not ideal for use on a corporate network, but if you want to be creative at home or in just about any type of business their products are just the best.

The apple stores are a great extension of their philosophy, not perfect but the nicest retail experience anywhere. No hard selling, lots of product knowledge and as much time as you need.


Apple isn't perfect

- submitted by Anonymous on 02/14/2008

I don't think anyone would say apple is perfect, but they are an example of only a small handful of companies who clearly build products that people love. They are not compromised and will never appeal to everyone, but they fit into a normal life really well. Not the perfect games platform and not ideal for use on a corporate network, but if you want to be creative at home or in just about any type of business their products are just the best.

The apple stores are a great extension of their philosophy, not perfect but the nicest retail experience anywhere. No hard selling, lots of product knowledge and as much time as you need.


"I too realized I could get

- submitted by Some Guy on 02/14/2008

"I too realized I could get a MUCH better machine for about a $1000 less if I got a Dell XPS laptop, which I did."

No, you didn't.

When you match the specs of a Mac with the nearest equivalent from Dell, you end up around the same price, except that the Dell will be bigger, heavier, and come with a broken, bloated, buggy, unsecurable and yes, butt-ugly excuse for an operating system.

You will spend a couple of hours deleting the crapware that it comes with, and applying all of the critical security update patches you need, and if you're lucky enough to get them applied before your new Dell is made part of some spammers' bot net, you'll still have to wipe it and reinstall periodically just to clear out the junk that accumulates in the registry.

Some people are proud of the work they've done to master the minutia of how to keep a Windows system up and running. Smarter people have better things to do, so we buy Macs.


Good for you!!

- submitted by Anonymous on 02/14/2008

Article was brilliant! As many of the nay-sayers that have commented on your article have missed is that you were mainly discussing the attributes of the Apple store and how it's influence WORKS in selling product. I agree.

I also enjoy Apple products. They work. No viruses. It's not all a bed of roses, but it works much better and more easily than my 20 years of Windows experience.

Don't let the bastards get your down!


Stop being a consumer whore.

- submitted by Anonymous on 02/14/2008

All of you can kiss my ass. Use whatever you want or whatever gets the job done. Who cares if it's a Mac, Windows, or Linux. The point is to be a smart consumer and the writer of this article has obviously not been one. He even admits to ignoring his initial intentions and spending $2300 on something just on a whim. I hope your purchase gives you plenty of problems and teaches you a lesson.

Oh, and for the record, PC does not equate to windows people.. Linux and BSD are not windows and still fall under the category of PC (sometimes). I guess arguably these are server OSes, but they certainly can be used for Personal Computers.


Well...

- submitted by Ben on 02/14/2008

All your article indicates is that Apple has managed to brainwash 7-8% of the computer-using public, an extra 1% than normal thanks to the iPod. And that Apple users have little to do with their free time other than worship their new god.


apple v everyone else

- submitted by Anonymous on 02/14/2008

i don't agree that apple is the future unfortunately, osx isn't great for work for example, they have a very low market share for business computers, which is a much bigger market than home computers. people like to play with apple stuff i agree it's fun and everything they make is extremely aesthetically pleasing, but people just like to play with it, i go in regularly to checkout who has stayed logged in on facebook on the iphones and change their status to "is a fatty pig fatty" and i don't think i've ever seen anyone actually buy a computer from them, presumably because they're incredibly expensive for what they are, if apple sold their OS for use on other companies hardware i'd happily buy a copy, but sadly, they want me to pay over the odds for the hardware and that isn't going to happen.


Wow.

- submitted by Robert on 02/14/2008

I like both. I use both. Both have thier place in my home. Use both for many different applications. Some apps don't work on a Apple, some work better on a PC and vice versa. But saying that people with Macs are just smarter....stereotyping. I think everybody needs to step down from thier high horse. And just give both a chance to evolve. The thing is all the hate towards each other is really, really, sad. Everybody has thier own opinion. But damn...chill out. This guy just wrote on his experience at the Apple store. So what, big deal.. I had a nice experience writing this comment while sitting on the commode. Let me tell you all about it..


I love the arguement that in

- submitted by Anonymous on 02/14/2008

I love the arguement that in order to be successful. APPLE HAS TO SELL THEIR OS JUST AS MICROSOFT DOES OR THEY ARE GOING OUT OF BUSINESS.

^ My contention is this Apple could care less about selling macs in the business setting. Dell and HP make little money per machine, they hope to make it up in maintenance costs, which surprise makes them more money then the actual sale. So Apple's reason to get in this market is what exactly....

And Anonymous IT dude. You know PCs inside and out, great... and the last time you used a Mac was.... I thought so.


You PC guys

- submitted by Anonymous on 02/14/2008

To all your PC guys complaining about Apple, please get a life. First of all, the sales people at the Apple store are called Mac specialists. They do not run on commission. And to the guy who said that he can get a Dell XPS better than a macbook pro does not know what he is talking about. If you Price out a Dell and a macbook pro, the dell will end up costing more in order to even match the power of the macbook pro. If you really want to know why apple does so well, is that they care about the their customers and customer service is key. All the specialists are trained to show they offer and they come up with "solutions" on what products a customer needs for what they are trying to accomplish. They also have other services for people who want to learn how to use a mac and they have the Genius bar which is the technical service bar where customers can get their computers repaired. If they are under warranty, all repairs are free. No other pc company offers this kind of service. Plus unlike best buy and other stores, Apple lets you full try their products, the computers arent just demos. Which is why people just come up to the store and play with the products that are offered. Unlike most retail...Apple has done lots of research to ensure that the customer is happy and that they get solutions they need for whatever purpose.


Is everybody stupid?

- submitted by Anonymous on 02/14/2008

DELL XPS M1530 (2.6GHz/800Mhz FSB, 4MB Cache) Genuine Windows Vista® Home Premium Edition High Resolution glossy widescreen 15.4 inch LCD(1680x1050) & 2MP Camera 2GB Shared Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 667MHz (2 Dimms) Speed: 160GB 7200rpm SATA Hard Drive Free Fall Sensor Slot Load DVD+/-RW (DVD/CD read/write) 256MB NVIDIA® GeForce® 8600M GT Intel Next-Gen Wireless-N Mini-card Dell Wireless 355 Bluetooth Internal (2.0+Enhanced Data Rate) 56 WHr 6-cell Lithium Ion Primary Battery Integrated Sound Blaster Audigy HD Software Edition My Software & Accessories Trend Micro Internet Security 15-months Microsoft® Office Professional 2007 - Small Business + Access database Adobe Photoshop + Premiere Elements My Service 1Yr In-Home Service, Parts Labor,24x7 Phone Support 1Yr LoJack for Laptops Theft Protection (CD Shipped Separately) Included 10GB DataSafe Online Backup for 1Year No ISP requested Also Includes Windows Vista™ Premium Adobe® Acrobat® Reader 8.1 $2553

Macbook Pro 15" 2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo 1440 x 900 resolution 2GB memory 160GB hard drive1 8x double-layer SuperDrive NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT graphics with 256MB SDRAM Ships: Within 24 hours Free Shipping $2,499.00

Oh and the Dell comes with a faster processor and Office 2007 Pro. Higher resolution HD display. In home service..


Congratulations on drinking the Kool-Aid

- submitted by NothingHasChanged on 02/14/2008

Apple stores and products have been around for years. What's the best marketshare they ever had? If they hadn't stumbled on the iPod cash-cow(bought a few myself) they'd be nowhere. Apple gets doomsday and world domination predictions all the time: neither has yet to come true.

With a recession nobody is going to spend $1000 when they can get a Walmart box for <$200 that does the same thing. You could even make it Hackintosh if you *really* *really* *really* love OS X that much. Apple hardware beauty is literally only skin deep and covered an inch thick in marketing cosmetics.


Congrats on your new Mac!

- submitted by Robert J. Palmer on 02/14/2008

Just wanted to say I enjoyed reading the article and welcome to the other side! As you've probably seen from the Apple store and a few Google searches the Mac community is very helpful with new users. If you've got any questions feel free to ask and I'm sure there will be plenty of people to help you out. Again congrats on the purchase!


:-)

- submitted by Anonymous on 02/14/2008

Very good and funny article :-)


Subject? Predicate!

- submitted by Anonymous on 02/14/2008

In my opinion, the writer's only fault is that he over-spent. I got a refurbished macbook (Intel core duo) during xmas 2006 for $699 + tax.


good article

- submitted by Anonymous on 02/14/2008

fun to read article. I like my mac (i switched a year ago). And to the person saying "anything a mac can do a pc can do", well, actually it's the other way around. Since you can run just about OS on a mac now, they truly can do whatever a pc can do. Also, speaking of OS, I'd much much rather have a mac OS than Vista. I'm not going to say "anyone who has a ___ is a moron" or something like that. I'm just sayin I like my mac.

And it's fun to read an article by someone who just switched.


DELL XPS M1530

- submitted by @ is everybody stupid? on 02/14/2008

DELL XPS M1530 (2.6GHz/800Mhz FSB, 4MB Cache) - you left out the part about the fact that you can put a 2.6 Ghz processor in a mac too.

And Apple had FSB @ 800 MHZ... last June.

Genuine Windows Vista® Home Premium Edition - LMAO, is that the best you got? You're not seriously bragging about this being a "advantage" are you?

High Resolution glossy widescreen 15.4 inch LCD(1680x1050) & 2MP Camera

2GB Shared Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 667MHz (2 Dimms) Same a Mac.

Free Fall Sensor - Macs have had these or years prior to Dell.

Slot Load DVD+/-RW (DVD/CD read/write) - Ah Superdrive anyone?

256MB NVIDIA® GeForce® 8600M GT Intel - Apple had them first.

Next-Gen Wireless-N - Apple had it a year before.

Mini-card Dell Wireless 355 Bluetooth Internal (2.0+Enhanced Data Rate) - Bluetooth has been standard for 2 years on Macs.

Trend Micro Internet Security 15-months - When was the last time a Mac user installed security software... I'll save you the mental anguish, never.

Microsoft® Office Professional 2007 - Small Business + Access database - Neo Office, Open Office and any number of others work just fine, and are free.

Adobe Photoshop + Premiere Elements -iPhoto or even freeware can do all the same and more, in the case of GimpShop even more, and its oh, free.

My Service 1Yr In-Home Service, Parts Labor,24x7 Phone Support - With incompetent techs, all routed through dispatch... in India...

Also Includes Windows Vista™ Premium Adobe® Acrobat® Reader 8.1 - Preview anyone? Besides the OS has been able to make a PDF out of almost any application for about oh what, since it launched in 2000?!

Congrats Dell has just caught up to where Apple was last June. Thanks for playing...


Anythings better than microsuck

- submitted by nudepenguin.net on 02/14/2008

I think it's cool the way Apple has taken a free OS (BSD) and spun it out the way they like it and market it so everyone loves it. I don't have a mac because I use Linux which you can make it look and feel just like OSX or tiger or vista or anything you want because of the freedom you have to remaster it. I will say I have thought of replacing My Dell(Ubuntu) Inspiron Laptop 1420 N http://dell.com/ubuntu with a macbook air. NO I'm just waiting for the gphone (googles answer to iphone) or as the OS in it is codenamed Android. Oh and for those of you worried about games, GET A PS3. What ever you do stay away from MICROSUCK WINDOZE!


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