B-Rant

- submitted by b-team on 02/16/2007

  

Will Roofers Ever Join The Human Race?

Are roofers human? Do they think we're all still in high school -- where not shaving and wearing dirt stained sweatshirts and breast-shaped tatooes and having beer breath at 9 a.m. is cool?

We're frustrated with our roofers. Who never return our calls, never come over, and happily let the holes in our roof welcome in the pouring rain and ice for days before acknowledging maybe they should consider taking a look.

What are your roofers like? Are they any better? Can roofers be trained and civilized? We want to know. ...read more rants

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i'm a roofer and i resent

- submitted by roofer on 02/16/2007

i'm a roofer and i resent this. now leave me alone, i've got to finish my beer.


my roofer's not like this at

- submitted by allby on 02/16/2007

my roofer's not like this at all. he doesn't have beer breath. it's tequila.


i'm still waiting for our

- submitted by gussie on 02/16/2007

i'm still waiting for our roofer (a guy we paid 15k to put on a new roof) to call us back.

we're upstate ny. the storm has dumped snow, etc in our bedrooms. and the idiot hasn't even the courtesy to return my calls!


i try to treat my roofer

- submitted by frustratedtoo on 02/16/2007

i try to treat my roofer like my plumber. beg, plead, offer anything except sex.

still the guy barely shows interest. if he shows up, it's miracle. then when he does he often says he's got to come back because it's bigger than he thought.

i hate roofers. wish i married one.


we're in eastern pa. we've

- submitted by jill on 02/16/2007

we're in eastern pa. we've still got the plastic wrapped over our hole in the roof that the roofer taped on 2 months ago.

he was supposed to fix it then. now the plastic is blowing half off in the wind. nice!


i have a deal with my

- submitted by snowedinguy on 02/16/2007

i have a deal with my roofer. he comes within a week after i call and i don't call unless i have a real emergency. like if the house has collapsed and fallen into a bottomless pit filled with molten lava.

my roofer doesn't just drink before he gets to my house. he drinks at my house. bad news.


my roof now has a blue tarp

- submitted by stuckinhouse on 02/16/2007

my roof now has a blue tarp over it. the roofer put it there 2 weeks ago. i'm still waiting for him to come back.

i think my roofer shaves, though. i'm be thrilled if he didn't and drank constantly as long as he got here and did something!


hey, i don't khnow what

- submitted by roofer on 02/16/2007

hey, i don't khnow what you're talking about. as soon as i finish this keg, i'll be right over!!!


roofers are people too. they

- submitted by devi on 02/16/2007

roofers are people too. they have families and i'm pretty sure they don't return their calls either.

i don't think they're the worst, though. gutter guys. worse by far.


our roofer came today. we've

- submitted by jenna on 02/17/2007

our roofer came today. we've been waiting 4 days. he's a good guy but totally unreliable.

our upstairs bathroom was flooded from the storm. he came in and said, uh sorry.


i have few problems with

- submitted by roofersympathizer on 02/17/2007

i have few problems with roofers. they're just trying to make a living. so they don't look like wall street traders.

screw wall street traders.


i don't care how my roofer

- submitted by Anonymous on 02/17/2007

i don't care how my roofer looks, as long as he shows up.

it's true i don't think i've heard him speak much, other than grunts, but if he shows up, i could care less.

question is when is he going to show up. he came a couple days ago, said he'd be back to permanently patch the roof and he hasn't come yet. now that's pissing me off.


i used to do roofing over

- submitted by joey on 02/17/2007

i used to do roofing over summers during college.

there were 2 requirements: 1) decent balance, 2) willingness to consume beer at all times of the day.

i was great at 2, not so great at 1


i'm still waiting. near

- submitted by outofpatience on 02/18/2007

i'm still waiting. near dobbs ferry, ny.

we're offering a reward to anyone who can deliver us a profess roofer in the shortest time. we're still waiting.


we're suing our roofer. he

- submitted by roofersuck on 02/18/2007

we're suing our roofer. he enlarged the hole, said he'd fix and disappeared. i had to go up on the roof myself to put plastic on.

a complete creep. and, yes, he never shaved.


my wife is a roofer. i wish.

- submitted by marriedtoaroofer on 02/18/2007

my wife is a roofer. i wish. but she refuses to call our because she says he's a pig.

we call 10 at a time any time we have aproblem. even the guy who originally put on our new roof is unreliable.


roofer rock! never shaving,

- submitted by jake on 02/18/2007

roofer rock! never shaving, wearing tatoos and dirty clothes. i'm all for it. maybe i'll try it at my job at the investment bank this tuesday.


Roofers like cocaine

- submitted by Nevarmihnd on 08/02/2007

All the roofers - no exception - know do drugs. Ask you roofer if he parties. Offer him a line. He'll be back with a full crew if he thinks there'll be more or you won't fire him for bringing his own. Additionally, this tactic can be successful with contractors, carpenters, and especially landscapers.

* Disclaimer* I don't know every roofer. I apologize in advance for offending any clean roofers. I also apologize to few suburbanites who don't maintain the outward facade of perfect-upstanding citizen, then secretly light up a joint after the kids are in bed.


to sniviling home owners:

- submitted by the roofer on 12/18/2007

whaah.

you got a leak? so does about ten thousand other people. they called first, are more pleasant, and have real issues. there are only so many hours in the day, and nice days to do it on.

go get a bucket, a towel, kitty litter, or some other thing to soak up water, and be patient. if you piss us off we will never come. as far as the guys who took you money and ran, while leaving you worse off than when you started. you should have thought about that before you shopped for the lowest bidder. you people got what you deserved. why should i RUSH over to your house when you didn't call me to do the job in the first place? do you think anyone can make a living repairing leaks? and no i don't know why it's leaking. it's leaking because i didn't do the job in the first place. you can't see leaks, as most are hidden under a shitty job. all i can do is tear it out and re-do it properly.

yes it will cost you four hundred dollars[or more], so don't bitch at me for the high price of fixing another shitty contractor's blunder. you should have researched the guy you planned on protecting your whole house, rather than let some idiot right out of prison do the job for a few hundred dollars less. didn't you think of getting a few referrals?

you people make me sick, it's no wonder i drink.


and another thing or two.

- submitted by the roofer on 12/18/2007

some of you that commented are prolly the type that forgets to leave your phone number when calling. nothing more i hate that to get bitched at for not calling back when you never left the phone number in your nasty message in the first place. i don't have the phone book or even past clients phone numbers memorized. i'm usually retrieving messages from a cell phone on the road. LEAVE YOU NUMBER STUPID. it costs me hundreds of dollars a year for a criss cross directory to cater to you imbeciles, and it only shows listed numbers. leave a CLEAR detailed message with a phone number and address. don't assume we can understand your garbled voice, leave that stuff twice.

to you old people...get an answering machine. how the hell do i know i have to call back three times because it takes you that long to get up from your death bed to answer the phone.

get a cable modem or call waiting too. nobody likes calling back and getting a busy signal. how about leaving some times when you know you will be home? or a friggin' work number? if i have to jump through hoops to lose money on a service call, i'm definitely NOT interested in your roof problem.

now where is that tequila?


roofer sucks

- submitted by Rare White Ape on 12/18/2007

Owned.


roofers

- submitted by Wall street Trader on 12/18/2007

I am a fancy big city wall street trader and can tell you that roofers would know how to short sell even if they had bullets sitting on thier laps. Therefore they are not good at partying. Also they look like major league all-star Mark McGwire, no joke.


...

- submitted by State Official on 12/18/2007

Dear roofers,

Please stop coming to our state every year. Your debauchery is ruining our good name, and we're running out of alcohol.

Sincerely,

The people of Wisconsin


roofers

- submitted by Backseat Roofer on 12/18/2007

You think roofers are that bad? Sure they poop in a corner, shed hair everywhere, have a heavy right foot and have a disposition that makes Dick Cheney look like Lil Miss Sunshine and those are the good points. If you want worse look no further then guys who work HVAC, it's a miracle they can see anything through all of the weed smoke.


I just keep a few kegs lying

- submitted by on 12/18/2007

I just keep a few kegs lying around because I know if my roofer arrives without having his morning brew he'll be grumpy all day


roofers

- submitted by Anonymous on 08/16/2008

are the most drug laced alcohol fueled foul mouthed workers there are so find the cheapeast check there referances and go with them cause they are all the same fancy advertising or not


To the gutter comment, and this thing in general

- submitted by Anonymous on 07/28/2009

I had seven summers and two winters (yes, that's right, winters in CT where we worked outside for extended periods of time wearing more layers than figures to your salary) working as a copper guy. I hung gutters. I did chimney flashings. I put on standing seam copper roofs fifty feet in the air. I worked for my old man whose been in the business for 25+ years. Ya know how many times he showed up to a job after have a drink, or drinking on the job, in all that time? The number looks kind of like a vertical oval (for those of you at home, it looks like a zero.) That's right, not once. Ya know what happened to one of the guys that used to drink on the job? Fell off the roof, broke his back, got fired and is currently living out of his van somewhere. My old man is one of the best in the business in Connecticut. And him and I have put up with a lot of crap from you homeowners, too. Are you aware of how much of a pain in the ass it is to have someone who works in an office all day tell me that I've set a ladder wrong? Or that I should use a different hammer? Or (and this is the best one) that I hung the hanger/circle for a half-round gutter incorrectly? That I've pitched the gutter the wrong way?

Also, on the returning calls note: Do you always return your calls? 100% of the time? Even to that jerk from the 17th floor in the corner office that just wants to rub something in your face? Your hypocrisy astounds me.


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SHITTY ROOFERS

- submitted by GORDON THOMAS BAILEY on 09/04/2009

I HAVE BEEN IN THE CONTRACTING BUSINESS FOR 30 YEARS, SPECIALIZING IN ROOFING FOR THE PAST 15 YEARS. OF ALL THE TRADES IN ONTARIO, CANADA I WOULD HAVE TO RATE ROOFING PERSONS AS THE BEST CONFIDENCE PEOPLE IN THE BUSINESS WORLD. THE PRE-REQUISITES FOR THE OCCUPATION ARE THE ABILITY TO BREATHE AND STAND AT THE SAME TIME. THERE IS NO APPRENTICESHIPS, NO CERTIFICATION, NO NOTHING. I SEE MORE BAD WORK OUT THERE THAN I CARE TO MENTION. IT IS UNBELIEVABLE THAT OUR GOVERNMENT IN THIS PROVINCE DOES NOTHING TO PROTECT THE CONSUMER. IT IS OPEN SEASON ON ALL WHO NEED TO HAVE THEIR ROOFS REPAIRED OR REPLACED.IT IS A CONSTANT STRUGGLE TO GROW THIS BUSINESS OF OURS DUE TO THE LACK OF SKILLED TRADES INVOLVED IN ROOFING. LET'S FACE IT, SMART PEOPLE DO NOT BECOME ROOFERS, IT IS DANGEROUS,DIRTY, DUSTY, HOT, COLD, SEASONAL, AND YOU ALWAYS GET THE PLEASURE OF WORKING WITH THOSE PEOPLE THAT HAVE CRIMINAL RECORDS, DRUG AND ALCHOHOL ADDICTIONS, RECOVERING ADDICTS, NO VEHICLE OR DRIVERS LICENSE, NO TOOLS, NO BUS FARE, NO CIGARETTES OR LUNCH, JUST OUT OF JAIL, NO SKILLS (EXCEPT LYING) NO CONCIENCE, NO PRIDE, NO PLACE TO LIVE PERMANENTLY,NO MATH SKILLS(EXCEPT PAYDAY) NO RELIABILITY HOWEVER THEY ALL TELL YOU THEIR EXPERIENCED. WELCOME ABOARD, NOW AS A MANAGER I PUT THESE PEOPLE WITH A VERY EXPERIENCED QUALIFIED MASTER ROOFER AND FIND OUT AFTER A DAY OR TWO WE HAVE BEEN MISLED, 95% CAN NOT EVEN NAIL A SHINGLE IN THE MANUFACTURER PRE-MARKED LOCATION, CAN NOT INSTALL DRIP EDGE, RAKE EDGE, UNDERLAYMENT, SET UP A HOIST AND ACTUALLY OPERATE IT, THESE PEOPLE ARE NOTHING BUT SHEEP, LOTS AND LOTS OF SHEEP AND SO VERY FEW SHEPHERD'S. WE FEEL BLESSED THAT WE HAVE AT LEAST TWO SHEPHERDS ON OUR TEAM AND AFTER 10 YEARS REALIZE THAT WE LOST THE BATTLE TO GROW AS THE SKILLED ROOFER'S ARE NOT OUT THERE TO SUSTAIN THE GROWTH. IT IS A SHAME AND WE CANNOT BLAME ONLY THE ROOFER'S BUT MUST ALLOT THE CONSUMERS SOME BLAME. TWO KINDS OF CUSTOMERS EXIST, THOSE THAT BUY PRICE AND THOSE THAT BUY THE JOB AND THE OLD ADDAGE THAT "BUYER'S ARE LIARS" DOES HOLD A LOT OF WEIGHT. THE UNFORTUNATE PART IS THAT MANY, MANY CONSUMERS CAN NOT AFFORD THE HIGH END ROOFER BUT ARE MORE THAN HAPPY TO SUCK AS MUCH INFORMATION FROM THE ESTIMATOR AS POSSIBLE AND HAVE THE GULL TO ASK FOR THE FREE ESTIMATE IN WRITING KNOWING FULL WELL THEY ARE NOT GOING TO USE YOUR COMPANY BUT REALLY LIKED WHAT YOU HAD TO SAY ABOUT THE SPECIFICATIONS OF THE PROJECT. THES ARE SMART BUT SHITTY CONSUMERS WITH NO CONCIENCE AS TO THE VALUE OF THE SMART ROOFING ESTIMATORS TIME. IF THE ROOFER PROVIDES A COPY OF HIS MUNICIPAL LICENSE, HIS LIBILITY INSURANCE, WORKPLACE SAFETY CLEARANCE CERTIFICATE AND REFERENCES OVER A PERIOD OF YEARS INCLUDING A CUSTOMER THAT WAS UNHAPPY ABOUT SOMETHING THEN YOU CAN BE PRETTY SURE YOU ARE DEALING WITH A PROFESSIONAL. IF YOU DO NOT YOU MUST BE BUYING PRICE AND I WILL NOT SAY DESERVE WHAT YOU GET BECAUSE MOST PEOPLE CAN NOT AFFORD THE BEST.IF MORE PEOPLE COULD AFFORD THE BEST THEN INEVITABLY THE STANDARDS WOULD BE RAISED BECAUSE THE SHEEP WOULD FOLLOW IF THEY HAD THE DESIRE TO BE UP THEIR WITH THE BEST. A PIECE OF ADVISE TO PROTECT YOURSELF'S FROM BAD WORK IS TO DEMAND DIGITAL PHOTO'S OF THE PROJECT, BEFORE, DURING AND UPON COMPLETION. DO NOT LISTEN ABOUT REFERRAL'S FROM ANYONE UNLESS THEY HAVE HAD THEIR ROOF FOR A PERIOD OF TEN YEARS, AND EVEN THEN GO LOOK AT IT. IT SHOULD STILL LOOK GOOD AND NOT LIKE IT IS FAILING. CALL YOUR BETTER BUSINESS BUREAU AND IN CONCLUSION; DO NOT BE CHEAP, DO YOUR HOMEWORK,GOOGLE THE COMPANY AND THE OWNER'S, ASK THE WORKERS IF THEIR EMPLOYEE'S, MANY ESTIMATORS,SALESMAN AND OWNER'S LIE AND SAY THEY USE NO SUB CONTRACTOR'S. WHY IS THIS IMPORTANT? BECAUSE IT IS A LIE WHICH PROBABLY IS NOT ALONE.


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